FB: Dinas Emrys

The fortress that couldn’t be built.

British Library MS Cotton Claudius B VII f.224, Geoffrey of Monmouths Prophetiae Merlini, c 1250-1270.
British Library MS Cotton Claudius B VII f.224, Geoffrey of Monmouth's Prophetiae Merlini, c 1250-1270.

The story of Merlin and Vortigern was first recorded in the Historia Brittonum (c. 825) given here from the Medieval Sourcebook:

40. But soon after calling together his twelve wise men, to consult what was to be done, they said to him, “Retire to the remote boundaries of your kingdom; there build and fortify a city to defend yourself, for the people you have received are treacherous; they are seeking to subdue you by stratagem, and, even during your life, to seize upon all the countries subject to your power, how much more will they attempt, after your death!” The king, pleased with this advice, departed with his wise men, and travelled through many parts of his territories, in search of a place convenient for the purpose of building a citadel. Having, to no purpose, travelled far and wide, they came at length to a province called Guenet [Gwynedd]; and having surveyed the mountains of Heremus, they discovered, on the summit of one of them, a situation, adapted to the construction of a citadel. Upon this, the wise men said to the king, “Build here a city; for, in this place, it will ever be secure against the barbarians.” Then the king sent for artificers, carpenters, stone-masons, and collected all the materials requisite to building; but the whole of these disappeared in one night, so that nothing remained of what had been provided for the constructing of the citadel. Materials were, therefore, from all parts, procured a second and third time, and again vanished as before, leaving and rendering every effort ineffectual. Vortigern inquired of his wise men the cause of this opposition to his undertaking, and of so much useless expense of labour? They replied, “You must find a child born without a father, put him to death, and sprinkle with his blood the ground on which the citadel is to be built, or you will never accomplish your purpose.”

41. In consequence of this reply, the king sent messengers throughout Britain, in search of a child born without a father. After having inquired in all the provinces, they came to the field of Aelecti, in the district of Glevesing [Glywysing], where a party of boys were playing at ball. And two of them quarrelling, one said to the other, “” boy without a father, no good will ever happen to you.” Upon this, the messengers diligently inquired of the mother and the other boys, whether he had had a father? Which his mother denied, saying, “In what manner he was conceived I know not, for I have never had intercourse with any man;” and then she solemnly affirmed that he had no mortal father. The boy was, therefore, led away, and conducted before Vortigern the king.

42. A meeting took place the next day for the purpose of putting him to death. Then the boy said to the king, “Why have your servants brought me hither?” “That you may be put to death,” replied the king, “and that the ground on which my citadel is to stand, may be sprinkled with your blood, without which I shall be unable to build it.” “Who,” said the boy, “instructed you to do this?” “My wise men,” answered the king. “Order them hither,” returned the boy; this being complied with, he thus questioned them: “By what means was it revealed to you that this citadel could not be built, unless the spot were previously sprinkled with my blood? Speak without disguise, and declare who discovered me to you;” then turning to the king, “I will soon,” said he, “unfold to you every thing; but I desire to question your wise men, and wish them to disclose to you what is hidden under this pavement:” they acknowledging their ignorance, “there is,” said he, “a pool; come and dig:” they did so, and found the pool. “Now,” continued he, “tell me what is in it;” but they were ashamed, and made no reply. “I,” said the boy, “can discover it to you: there are two vases in the pool;” they examined, and found it so: continuing his questions, “What is in the vases?” they were silent: “There is a tent in them,” said the boy; “separate them, and you shall find it so;” this being done by the king’s command, there was found in them a folded tent. The boy, going on with his questions, asked the wise men what was in it? But they not knowing what to reply, “There are,” said he, “two serpents, one white and the other red; unfold the tent;” they obeyed, and two sleeping serpents were discovered; “consider attentively,” said the boy, “what they are doing.” The serpents began to struggle with each other; and the white one, raising himself up, threw down the other into the middle of the tent and sometimes drove him to the edge of it; and this was repeated thrice. At length the red one, apparently the weaker of the two, recovering his strength, expelled the white one from the tent; and the latter being pursued through the pool by the red one, disappeared. Then the boy, asking the wise men what was signified by this wonderful omen, and they expressing their ignorance, he said to the king, “I will now unfold to you the meaning of this mystery. The pool is the emblem of this world, and the tent that of your kingdom: the two serpents are two dragons; the red serpent is your dragon, but the white serpent is the dragon of the people who occupy several provinces and districts of Britain, even almost from sea to sea: at length, however, our people shall rise and drive away ;the Saxon race from beyond the sea, whence they originally came; but do you depart from this place, where you are not permitted to erect a citadel; I, to whom fate has allotted this mansion, shall remain here; whilst to you it is incumbent to seek other provinces, where you may build a fortress.” “What is your name?” asked the king; “I am called Ambrose (in British Embresguletic [Emrys Wledig]),” returned the boy; and in answer to the king’s question, “What is your origin?” he replied, “A Roman consul was my father.” Then the king assigned him that city, with all the western provinces of Britain; and departing with his wise men to the sinistral district, he arrived in the region named Gueneri, where he build a city which, according to his name was called Cair Guorthegirn.

[For the text in Latin and a better translation, go to Robert Vermaat’s translation here].

And so that fortress that couldn’t be built passes to Ambrosius and Vortigern moves to a new more southern region. There is a post-Roman fort built on the hill called Dinas Emrys near Roman Caermarthen [Caer Fryddin] in North Wales, but as far as I know it is never mentioned in history. Photoes of the ruins can be found here.

The boy in the story is named Mryddin Emrys (Merlin Ambrosius) by Geoffrey of Monmouth. The association of the name Caer Fryddin (Caer Mryddin) so close to Dinas Emrys may have given Geoffrey the idea to fuse the legendary characters of Ambrosius with Mryddin the wizard/prophet. There is no reason to associate Mryddin/Merlin with Arthur before Geoffrey of Monmouth. Indeed, in Culhwch and Olwen, Taliesin is Arthur’s chief bard in the list of heroes.

5 thoughts on “FB: Dinas Emrys

  1. Dinas Emrys is in Gwynedd no where near Caermarthen in Dyfed

    The tale itself smacks of poetic licence and has more holes than a tea bag

    How does Ambrose translate into Emrys Wledig? i`ll give you a clue it dosent
    the same people try and change Eugenius into Owain.

    If Ambrose`s father is a Roman consul then why is it so difficult to identify him on any of the Consular lists? and what would he be doing in a Kingdom now seperated from Rome`s jurisdiction?

    the sprinkling of the boys blood over the rocks,we are in the 5th Century Britain which was pretty much Christian yes?

    With the house of Cunedda apparently now ruling Gwynedd,who gave Vortigern permission to build there?

    ok,reality: Dinas Emrys did get built and its ruins are still highly visible on one of the best natural fortresses in Britain.It is also built in an exceptionally strategic place in the valley which led to Llewelyn ap Iorweth building further fortification there in the 13th Century.The Fortress is also right next to the Sigyn copper mines which may have also been important at the time for trade and the river which comes out at Caernarfon making passage of freight quite easy.Obviously i have no chance of truly linking the fortress with Vortigern,Ambrosius,Merlin,Cunedda or whoever but archaeological evidence shows they had the resources to import wine from the mediteranean and ruled in some style in the 5th Century.

    1. Of course, those “same people” are people who’ve spent their lives studying Celtic linguistics and the history and development of the Welsh langauge. Clearly, they wouldn’t know anything ….. 😉

      The Latin name Ambrosius actually become Welsh Emrys quite regularly, as anyone versed in (or any book outlining) the phonological history could easily explain. It’s fairly straightforward, actually. There are doubts about Eugenius > Owein, and there are alternative possibilities, but it’s not at all improbable.

      Nevertheless, the best we can say is that there was in all likelihood a historical Ambrosius Aurelianus, and that later legends of him acquired the the “fatherless wonder-boy” and the fighting dragons (neither of which were probably part of the historical life of the historical Ambrosius! :)) and that we first see all this legendary material combined in the HB (though it may have been so combined earlier). The HB also locates the legends in Snowdonia, though does not specifically mention Dinas Emrys. Indeed, we can’t be sure that the site now known as Dinas Emrys necessarily already had that name in the 9th century (it’s first mentioned by Gerald of Wales in the 12th century, I think). On the other hand, we can be pretty confident that Geoffrey of Monmouth took the HB’s legend of Ambrosius and reassigned it to Merlinus.

      This is all pretty typical “remixing” in the development of historical legends and their creative retransformations back and forth across the oral/literary interface. Stewart, Lawhead, and others are just continuing the process. 🙂

  2. GREAT POST! Glad you’re covering this right now, because I just posted the other day on the topic of “Who Was Merlin” … I’ve only got Part 1 done, but I’m going to delay posting Part 2 and point instead to your excellent post here. My post is here:


    Also, this particular legend you have highlighted is a foundational one for my entire book series, so I’m doubly pleased you covered it in such detail. I don’t retell it like Mary Stewart, but the readers will understand by the end of the series how it fits in.

    Stephen Lawhead retells this as well in his book, MERLIN, although he has a different take.

    I Love Salad,

    Yes this was the 5th century, but Britain was not wholly Christian yet. This was a time of social upheaval, both religious and political.

  3. Im glad you like Salad also Robert

    Entirely christian is an argument in itself,even after the whole English nation had been Christian for hundreds of years there were still strange customs and habits which as you know are still used to this day.However after Constantine`s peverted decison to turn an Empire which was only around 5% Christian as the chosen religion of the empire followed by the strong anti-pagan edicts of particuarly Theodosius I do we really expect 5th Century Britain to have been bowing before Epona? Britain may have often veered strongly towards Arianism,Pelagianism and later the Celtic Doctrine of Christianity,but even in the remotest areas of what was Roman and post Roman Britain there is more evidence of Christianity than Paganism.

    I dont even want to get into how Myrddin ap Morydd became a cone hatted sidekick of King Arthur,there are enough fanciful elaborators in the world of literacy to do that.

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